
Perhaps Palin's scheduled speech should be one of resignation?
Lets take a look at the latest revelations about Palin.
Earmark Reductions - The much touted reduction in earmarks that position Palin as a hard line reformer were in fact a reduction of just $5 per person in Alaska. They asked for $300 per person in earmarks and Palin reduced it to $295.
Fact: Other states average $34 per person in earmarks, so Alaska is a huge abuser of this system and the slim reduction clearly does not demonstrate one who wants to change the system.
Sex Education - Both McCain and Palin are supporters of reduced funding for Sex Education. While she is a staunch supporter for the anti-abortion cause, she clearly has not demonstrated the knowledge that Sex Education helps the occurrence of unwanted teen pregnancies.
Fact: Her own daughter's teen pregnancy should be clue enough to her of the need to properly educate teens on more than abstinence and the bible. Not too mention the highly controversial rumor over her last child.
Abuse of Office - Only two years into her term as Alaskan governor and she is already under investigation for the firing of a state public safety commissioner.
Fact: While Palin hasn't been directly involved with the firing, it seems that members of her staff had a part in the firing.
Palin the Reformer - Palin accepted at least $4,500 in contributions in a fund raising scheme for her failed bid for Lieutenent governor. Palin also hired a lobbyist while mayor to secure the town of just 5000 with at least 14 earmarks worth $27 million over a 3 yr period.
Fact: This is the same fund raising scheme that has led to indictments of Sen. Ted Stevens, and the FBI is still investigating.
This has all come out in just the week since Palin was introduced to the general public. What other skeletons lie in that dark closet? We are asking the Vice President to be capable and reputable, especially given the advanced age and questionable health of McCain. Is it wise to nominate someone for Vice President that just got her passport 1 1/2 yrs ago?
Palin is neither experienced, worldly, able to handle her own family, trustworthy, or a reformer. They picked a pretty face to go along with McCain's aging mug.
The problem with Palin running is that people will not even look at her qualifications because of all of the reports and baggage she has with her. In the last few days I haven't listen to what she has done in politics just what is the problem with her and her family. So why would the republicans pick someone who will take away from what the republican party can do if they are elected to office. Are the republicans that desperate to show they can have women in their party because the democrats did not pick Hilary? These are the questions we as citizens need to really review. I personally think the republican party has made a bad choice just try and grab the democrats that voted for Hilary. People undecided on who they want to vote for will only see and here the problems with Palin and her family.The questions will be did she abuse her power? Did she not teach her child? Does she think a special needs child can handle this attention as they grow up? Does her children have respect for her title as govenor or vice president and can Palin step into the presidents office in case she needed to. What else will happen or come out before the election or after.
Your comments show a lack of research, to say the least. If the mainstream media reported on Obama the way they have reported on Palin no one would ever vote for him for anything. Try to find another source of information that will give you another side of the issues. The mainstream media will only give you one side, and you have bought it hook, line and sinker.
Where have you been? Obama has been vetted inside and outside by the media! He has not gotten a break since winning Iowa. He is crucified everyday on cable news and talk radio! Give me a break!
They will not dump her now - and a resignation is in practice the same thing - they have made far too many upfront speeches in support of her. She will do more damage leaving than staying.
anonymous jonesBiden has certainly been give grace by the media. I wonder why? Talk about double standards.
Only new faces get media attention because it's a hot fresh story. Barack Obama was under the hot lamp for over a year, now it's Sarah Palin's turn. Unfortunately, old men like John McCain and Joe Biden aren't loved my the camera.
I do believe that Joe Biden took a train (Amtrak?) to and from DC almost everyday, so he could take care of his children. Remember other working parents are gone during the day, away from their children also.
Her problems as I see them stem from the fact that she is a lying manipulative @!$%# who will do anything to have it her way! By the way, I haven't seen a photo yet that represents Bristol being 4-5 months pregnant. It appears that photo we have been seeing is old, as we all knew that it was from earlier this year!
Including myself. My criticism is not about her being a mother, but the hypocritical stance that says "no" to sex education, use abstinence, and the same time has a pregnant teenage daughter.
Pef, do you (or do you plan to) take personal responsibility for all the mistakes your children make? That is what you are asking of Sara Palin. If I have a son addicted to Heroine, can I not advocate drug resistence (abstinance), or do you think I should just hand out free needles and teach him to shoot up safely since he's going to do it anyway (education)? Your premise is skewed. The person (people) responsible for the pregnancy are not running for office.
You're right, I don't understand. Where is the hypocracy? How can an action someone else does make another a hypocrate? I talk about values to my kids all the time. Am I to be held a hypocrate if they do the opposite of what I believe anyway? Do you even have kids? If so, do they always do as you say and are you a hypocrate when they don't? She doesn't believe in abotrion, so she kept her baby and she counseled her daughter to do the same. Where is the hypocracy in that? If her daughter had an abortion, you would have a better argument of hypocracy, but that would still be her daughter's actions, not hers. I understand if you disagree with her views, but I fail to find hypocracy in her actions.
Naftel, that's part of the problem. It's the fact that many simply spew personal attacks. They don't even know what a hypocrite is, yet they scream it at every opportunity! If the dems were not shaking in their boots, you wouldn't see the absolutely hysterical attacks that are coming from all corners of the liberal world.
There's a poster on this very thread who is still clinging to the outrageous and slanderous story that her latest child is actually her grandchild. Grasping at irrational straws. If it weren't so scary that some of these people will actually vote, it would be hilarious.
Yeah, she's extreme right. Along with that, no experience. Imagine her becoming president tomorrow. Incredibly scary. Good job.
Imagine her becoming President? Imagine Pelosi becoming president! She's only extreme in the sense that her views differ from yours. She at least is no hypocrite and lives her beliefs.
If you want scandal go google "Joe Vogler" and "Alaska Independence Party." Yeah that's the party lil gun totin' Sara Oaklie was a member of as well has her husband. This guy makes Rev. Wright look like a Bircher....have fun!!! GET THIS STORY OUT THERE....
It's the stress of no sex life that drives them buggy.
That is absolutely unreal. Why hasn't MSNBC, CNN, etc. thrown this out there hard?? Or even Obama for that matter.
THE NATION NEEDS TO KNOW THIS!!
Sorry Judy, this story has already been debunked. Go find another.
I'm an Obama guy myself, but the more we blog and crap all over her, the more we're playing into McCain's hand. I believe she will resign which will give the Cons a beautiful reason to say "see! Liberals say they want women in power but look what they've done to this poor woman."
Agreed. Her resignation is a done deal... with Lieberman ready to step in.
That's a possibility, I was thinking more Mitt Romney. There's a couple of posts regarding this stuff too. Here is mine on why Liberals should shut upabout Palin, and Angrywhiteman has this article that's really good.
Can we come back to the real world now?
I guess I could try :-)
EnSoi:
Cons a beautiful reason to say "see! Liberals say they want women in power but look what they've done to this poor woman."
Let them.
It's not about getting a token woman in office.
Many of us would like to see a woman running the country.
But not just any female. The right one.
And she hasn't presented herself yet.
It's not about getting a token woman in office.
Did you make that case to the many (including here on NV) who weren't big on Hillary but were supporting her because she was a woman?
Of course.
Didn't I just say that she hasn't presented herself yet?
What does that have to do with my question?
How does a person who lives on the other end of the world relate to the needs and concerns of inner city American, well she can't. So this reformed image that the RNC is pushing well it's just another out of touch individual in a dress.
Also, does the RNC have the gall to state their the agents of change, when they can't even get an orginal message. When I listen to McCain and Palin, they are just parroting the same message Barack Obama started his campaign with and has been saying from the start.
In addition, while I do agree with Barack on the fact children are off limits, every Republican in this country when they are ask whats wrong with Black America, the first thing out of their mouths is unwed, under age girls having babies. Now their talking out the other side of their mouths, that the focus is on a white teen, just like the rest of this country, problems the News Media try to make exclusive to Black America is in white America too and now you can't sweep it under the rug because Fox News, your VP picks daughter is now in that group.
When I listen to McCain and Palin, they are just parroting the same message Barack Obama started his campaign with and has been saying from the start.
You mean the same message that every single non-incumbent campaign for virtually any elected office in history have been saying? Let's not go overboard with crediting The Obama with these kinds of tired political cliches.
and now you can't sweep it under the rug because Fox News, your VP picks daughter is now in that group.
They put the unwed pregnant couple on stage at the RNC... that's a far cry from trying to "sweep it under the rug".
Thank you Pef for putting her in perspective.
I was worried that there were actually serious things about her that might disqualify her from running but you've made it clear that she has a near impeccable record and background. You've convinced me!
Unless you're holding on to an October surprise or something...
I didn't even know you were still around. ;o)
Just remember this is only week 1.
Sure, but you're the one already calling for or predicting her resignation based really on nothing. Adding that it's only week one undermines the premise of your article.
Welcome back.
I am not sure how you can call these revelations nothing. After all we are talking about some one that very likely could be president.
Who? Her daughter? Or based on some extremely minor alleged scandals (with Obama and Biden on the other ticket do we really want to dish out earmarks as an issue? - I'm sure someone, somewhere has a calculator).
The OttO Show said:
"(with Obama and Biden on the other ticket do we really want to dish out earmarks as an issue? - I'm sure someone, somewhere has a calculator)."
Yeah, but will it have enough zeros?
Biden and Obama don't have issue with earmarks, the McCain ticket does.
Biden and Obama don't have issue with earmarks, the McCain ticket does.
Yes and his issue is that Biden and Obama don't have an issue with earmarks.
Oh well, but this is about McCain's ticket being hypocritical and lying - not about the Obama ticket and earmarks. :)
This is a pointless attempt to try and steer attention away form the fact that Obama doesn't have any experience the liberals are worried about it. I hope you aren't trying to call this biased nonsense journalism..... Common sense will hopefully prevail in this election, Obama and his followers will ruin this country if they get their way.
Fact: Her own daughter's teen pregnancy should be clue enough to her of the need to properly educate teens on more than abstinence and the bible. Not too mention the highly controversial rumor over her last child.
The school Bristol went to was not an abstinence only school, Pef. Did you know that fact and just forget to add it in? Also, what the Hell does a debunked "rumor" have to do with anything, controversial or not?
Did you even write this? Looks suspect, Pef.
Hmmm...seems yours may have been posted first. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, which is more than most of you on the left give Gov. Palin.
Seems sex education isn't working either, then. Unless more babies from teenage mothers was the goal, then BRAVO!
I heard a rumor that Barack Obama is a Muslim, and that he isn't even a citizen. Is it alright to keep repeating that, even if I don't believe it's true?
I mean, it still exists.
Hey, thx for the catch on that site sodaheads. I saw your post over there, thx again. Even if we agree to disagree, nice to see someone keeping people honest.
No problem. I can't stand thieves.
Don't see her resigning given her purported reputation. McCain's personality doesn't back away from a fight. This all reminds me of McGoveron and his VP choice who was withdrawn b/c stigma attached to depression. It is very important to vet her on issues not the private matters involving her children. That is not the measure of the ability to govern. It will backfire on the democrats if they "swiftboat" Palin using her daughter.
You practice what you believe at home, you don't try to impose those beliefs on the other three hundred million.
YOUR SICK!
I don't understand your reply.
If you read the comment, you would understand that it is important to base your decision on the qualifications to be a candidate, and if qualified, how those qualfications best serve the interests of the country. Her daughter is not running for VP - the mother is.
Following God or being God? There is a difference and mistakes aren't at issue - it's how the mistakes are dealt with and the only people who seem to have a problem with that are people who are never going to accept Palin anyway. And those people don't matter no matter how concerned they pretend they are about these kinds of issues. (sorry to break that to you, Pef).
People in public office may be held to a different standard. Regardless, political affiliations aside, her daughter's choices are hers alone not the mother's. They don't speak to the mother's ability to govern. As Obama has stated, children are off limits - remember back to the days when Hilary Clinton protected her daughter from the media.
I take it you supported Bill Clinton's impeachment? After all, not only did Bill trump his role with God and his marriage (repeatedly), when confronted about his infidelities, he lied about them and then abused his office to cover them up. If an ability to follow God and one's own code of morality (which doesn't seem to apply to Palin here) disqualifies one from office, doesn't that also apply after they are in office? And if Hillary (who is also married and follows God) can't reign in her sex addicted husband who embarrassed her family and the White House, then I guess she too should not be considered for higher office.
Bush's daughters were never pregnant - I guess that makes Bush a legitimate authority on parenting and abstinence issues and you take it seriously when it comes from him. Right?
Bush as legitimate authority on parenting? I don't think so!
During the 2000 presidential campaign, Bush's 1976 DUI arrest was made public. His daughter, Jenna was cited for alcohol possession by a minor April 27, 2001.
My only point here is that we should examine Gov. Palin's record and policies, the impact on the people of the state of Alaska, and how that would enable her to carry out the duties of VP. Is she the best person for the job -regardless whether she is reb or dem. Going after the daughter or injecting God into the equation is a red herring - we are not puppeteers controlling the actions of those around us.
Sorry, I was responding to Pef, though I see a contradiction in why the same parenting hiccups that define Bush don't define Palin.
That's the difference??
It's the old 'it's okay if a Democrat does it because Democrats don't have standards' routine.
So Clinton running on his faith and pumping up his marriage and lying to the public about his affairs is completely inconsequential, so long as he's never on legislative record. Maybe that's why Obama has voted 'present' so many times - this way, when he makes mistakes, no one can point out that he proposed or voted on something.
Meanwhile, Palin is dealing with her family problems in concert with what she proposes - that family issues and sex training belong in the family, not to government and public schools. We could criticize her if she sent her daughter in for a state-funded abortion but she's not doing that, is she?
That's a bit specious on your part, Pef.
Otto, it is speaking out of the side of your mouth. It is saying "I am willing to legislate what you do, but don't hold me to the same standards".
HOW??? What has Palin legislated, the people who aren't abstinent be shot? I don't know the details of what Palin supports or opposes in this aspect but I'm under the impression that it has to do with what government funds and what public schools teach. WHAT DOES HER DAUGHTER HAVE TO DO WITH THAT? What exactly did Palin propose that would make sex illegal (as you seem to be suggesting)?
At least the Clintons didn't try to legislate the illegality of what they were doing, or manipulate funding to programs that were contrary.
LOL - he just bent the law to cover it up.
She promotes abstinence, lower funding for sex ed, but has this happen within her own family.
They have nothing to do with each other. That's like saying someone who supports keeping abortion legal and then doesn't have an abortion is a hypocrite.
You're trying way to hard here to make an omelet with no eggs.
Palin's Resignation?
Wishful thinking on the dems part IMHO.
Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air. When was the last time you heard a politician say 'God Bless America' with sincerity?
Unlike Governor Locke in Washington State and Chrsitine Gregoire, Sarah has actually accomplished real work (while being Governor) instead of increasing taxes and pork barrel spending.
Washington State small businesses are living at subsitence levels and hide taxes by default of the highest regulations and draconian tax system in the States.
Locke and Gregoire put their own selfish political gains ahead of whats right for our State. Under their governance, we have increased pollution in the sound, and housing development has decimated most of the wetlands around the Puget Sound area. Property taxes have increased and encouraged the democrats to bring MORE developers to the area.
The State I grew up in is no longer the Evergreen State....it's California redux with malls and cars!!!
From a FORMER democrat...
kenglish76
Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air. When was the last time you heard a politician say 'God Bless America' with sincerity?
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."
"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."
Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'
Unlike Governor Locke in Washington State and Chrsitine Gregoire, Sarah has actually accomplished real work (while being Governor) instead of increasing taxes and pork barrel spending.
Palin's pork requests confound reformer image
Senior McCain Adviser Praises Palin For Raising Taxes, Says 'We Have To Have Taxes In This Country
Can she withdraw after she's nominated tonight? If so, would the GOP have to nominate her replacement?
Google Thomas Eagleton.
Guess so. That's what I thought. I wasn't sure about Eagleton because back then, the conventions were held earlier in the summer.
I think the democrats better hold tight because Palin is not a quitter. That girl is going nowhere!!!! I'm glad ! It is great to see someone with some spirit in her in the running. Raising a family and working at the same time is NO EASY JOB! Having a child with health issues is NO EASY JOB! This LADY has more experience than OBAMA has in his little pinkie! I would love nothing better than to have a McCain & Palin election this year!!!!!!! They are both strong people who have come up against the odds many times. Don't be foolish and believe all you hear about them that is negative. Alot of negatives are thrown in by alot of SCARED people!!!!!
It is great to see someone with some spirit in her in the running. Raising a family and working at the same time is NO EASY JOB! Having a child with health issues is NO EASY JOB!
I agree. With both candidates trying to paint the other as elitist and themselves as the everyman, Sarah Palin is the everywoman. Just a couple of years ago, her husband had to go back to work because the family needed more income. That's something we can all relate to. And I think that Sarah Palin could actually be good for the country in many ways.
But I don't agree with her politics and I don't think that either her or John McCain would take the country in the right direction if given the White House. So while I hope that she lives up to her potential to be the Washington outsider reformer, I hope she gets nowhere near Washington.
John McCain is anything but the maverick he claims to be anymore. But one thing we're learning in this election is that people believe what they hear. So if Sarah Palin runs as the reformer, and then goes back to Alaska as governor and maintains that reputation, does good things for her state, and becomes a voice for women like herself and a touchstone for the next generation of politics, that could be a good thing. An anti-establishment, Washington outsider (which she is) could be positive for America.
But I don't want her near the White House.
KGW in Portland, OR, had a news article w/video of "Sistah" Palin telling the Wasilla church that we had a "God given mission" to send our troops to Iraq. Which God was that? Or was it the Ayatollah Dubya al-Bushi?
She is also taking "Catechism" lessons from the current administration on the Gospel according to Saint George.
If this fine example of what the Republicans think is a suitable candidate should get into office, I feel extremely sorry for the women of this country.
If "Juan" McC should be elected and fail to complete his term, and this vindicative woman gets her hands on the "football", God help us all!
F.L. I was waiting for some one to bring the God thing into the discussion. Can you please stick to the topic? Listen to what will be said by Palin on t.v. tonite, before you get all messed up with your crazy ideas! Chill!!!!! Palin deserves to tell her side just like the rest do.
sunnydaz,
I've been listening to the candidates since the race began, and all I've heard so far, B.S. and more B.S. If it were all in one heap, you could fertilize all the farmland in North America.
Mrs. Palin in the video brought God into the discussion, and such being the case, becomes fair game on the subject.
The biggest thing I have against Mrs. Palin is, the fact that she not only "outed" her daughter to the world, but then said that she was proud of her daughter's choices. GET REAL! Both the daughter and her boyfriend made choices that were not only bad, they were stupid.
If McCain had chosen a woman of Mrs. Rice's caliber, I would have turned Republican for at least this election - As it stands, I am still an Independent, and I am waiting to see which of our candidates is the lesser of the two evils.
In her speech tonight, more time was spent on how much McCain suffered for his country. For what he endured, I am proud of him, but no more so than I am of the 55,000+ that died over there and the hundreds that went through the same terrors that McCain did. Surviving Viet Nam does not automatically give bonus points in the election of the individual that will become the leader and guiding light for this once great nation - I sincerely hope that whomever takes the seat in the White House will be able to bring us back to what we once were.
I will defend to the end your right to believe as you wish, but I will fight to the death to defend what I believe.
Do I have anything against Alaska..... Not at all. Though I now live in the "Lower 48", I was qualified as a "Sourdough" by either reckoning a dozen years before Mrs. Palin was born.
You have a nice day, and no matter which way you vote, may the better of our current candidates win!
F.L. Darn ! I have to somewhat agree with you. What her daughter and the guy did was wrong but as a mom of a 18yr. old I too had the shock of my life when our daughter called home and said she was pregnant. I too felt hurt and wondered what my husband & I did wrong or what we didn't do or say to stop this. With having an only child we were full of GUILT! Then we had to stand back and admit we did all we could do. Our relationship we felt was very open, now we found out it wasn't that open at all. Young people today no matter if you've said it all or done it all will end up doing things their way. Like Palin, we to were proud that our daughter made the only choice and what we told her was the right choice. She had her baby and gave it up for adoption to a wonderful couple that she chose. We as usual were there for her the entire 9 months and afterwards. Unfortunatly this is a very common thing now. It happens in wealthy,educated,poor,uneducated, close families and those that are not close. I feel we can blame tv, movies, and parents who let their daughters bring their boyfriends home to live with them as well. I hear that quite often too! Makes me blanch! We could not watch our daughter 24/7 even with me working days and my husband working nights. She would go out with a couple of friends to the library, the movies etc. We thought we could trust her even when checked in at home when she was out! It is unfortunate to say the least. We even offered birth control to her and she assured us "it would never happen to her because she would never do anything". I have to add, I'm not a REP. or DEMO. I like Palin and McCain. I feel they are a wonderful match and one that will keep us safe from our enemies. Palin has done wonderful things for her Alaska. Really, what has Obama done? He stutters so bad sometimes I have an awful time listening to him! But, thank you and you have a nice evening! I hope the best two win as well. Ours well being is in their hands as those of our children!
From rasmussenreports.com:
A week ago, most Americans had never heard of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. Now, following a Vice Presidential acceptance speech viewed live by more than 40 million people, Palin is viewed favorably by 58% of American voters. Perhaps most stunning is the fact that Palin's favorable ratings are now a point higher than either man at the top of the Presidential tickets this year. As of Friday morning, Obama and McCain are each viewed favorably by 57% of voters. Biden is viewed favorably by 48%.
I'm staying glued to CNN... she'll be resigning any minute now.
NOT the slightest chance of that EVER happening. Palin is a strong, intelligent woman. If you listened to her the crowds loved her. I think we were all surprised by her and many of the women I bet wished they were more like her.Sorry Naftel! You'll grow roots in that chair first!!!!
No, I'm sorry sunnydaz, I guess my post didn't convey the proper message. I was being sarcastic... Of course she is not going to resign. She has the highest rating of all of them... why on Earth would she resign or, even more rediculous, be forced to resign. (Read my post again with that in mind.) I thought people woud cath the sarcasm, but this will clarify for those who didn't.
Now I'm sorry Naftel.....thanks for pointing out what you meant. I just get so tired of so many people tearing others apart when the don't get more information from the right source's . Palin has been pulled apart savagely since she was chosen by McCain. Can't help it....I really admire her & sorta envy her at the same time! Have a good evening! Again I'm sorry.
If you cut programs that help to prevent teenage pregancies or children with special needs then vote for the pitt bull with lipstick/barracuda.
Your article is missing that famous jet that she sold on "Ebay" and made a profit out of. You think in this modern age where every bit of info is at ones fingertips, they would think twice before they lie umm sorry "stretch the truth". Apparently the jet in question was not really sold on Ebay and the "profit" was actually a loss since she sold it for less than originally posted. Can't wait to see what she comes up with next. And by the way, she needs to stop saying that line about "community organizers". She keeps repeating it line for line everywhere she goes. Talk about a broken record.
Forget for one minute about Palins daughters pregnancy. When you are out & about check out all the pregnant teens around you and let us know if Palin's daughter has done anything more wrong than the rest have. Think just because her mom is running for V.P she would do anything different? It was a time when things got way out of control. Happens to all kinds of kids from all kinds of homes. Quit already!!!!!!
In response to "happygirl" you need to think as a responsible adult if indeed you are. W know that teenagers makes mistakes; you are however forgetting that this woman is making an attempt to assume one of the highest and most prestigeous office in this Country. Heads of office must first be Heads of their household. Ms Palin has very little to offer in terms of integrity, class and dignity to the American Public especially the young people of this Country.
I would recommend that you review the speeches given by Lady Michelle Obama and Lady
McCain; they are both in a totally diferrent class. When asked of all presidential candidates whom the public will chose to have a drink in a bar with; the majority answered SARAH PALIN! that in itself tells you a lot about the woman, she's just not White House material she is indeed a loose cannon. Not fit to Govern our NATION.
Voting is done today. Obama's team are win.
Don't cry for me O' Alaska. The truth is I never meant to. My wild campaigning, my mad insaning. I broke my promise, to stay in office. Revised lyrics from Evita
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